https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/activity/Recent activity for Activa for AsteriskenTue, 13 Dec 2022 15:59:41 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/9a5ecd94b6/?limit=25#8c65I am looking for a TAPI driver for a grandstream ucm6202 system. Isee that you have the Activa but the exact way to set it up is missing for the Grandstream Alternatively if there is a way to set it up to use the grandstrewam grp2615 directly that would work. Any ideas please l let me know YosefyosefTue, 13 Dec 2022 15:59:41 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/9a5ecd94b6/?limit=25#8c65https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/33/?limit=25#daeeFor me it looks like that the code uses deprecated functions: gethostbyname gethostbyaddr See: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wsipv6ok/nf-wsipv6ok-gethostbyname?redirectedfrom=MSDNpanther_1Tue, 03 Mar 2020 13:13:33 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/33/?limit=25#daeehttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/3da8418682/?limit=25#9686For me it looks like that the code uses deprecated functions: gethostbyname gethostbyaddr See: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wsipv6ok/nf-wsipv6ok-gethostbyname?redirectedfrom=MSDNpanther_1Tue, 03 Mar 2020 13:13:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/3da8418682/?limit=25#9686https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/33/Activa TSP not ipv6 compatiblepanther_1Tue, 03 Mar 2020 11:56:53 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/33/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/3da8418682/?limit=25#d287hello my network is ipv6 only. My asterisk works without any problem with yealink phones and softphones. But your Activa TSP will not connect via ipv6 to the asterisk instance: Via DNS name: 03/03/20 12:35:27 [8804] INFO [ASTProvider] Connect(ansitel-v6.test.local,5038,rherold,7f9edbb3440fb45) 03/03/20 12:35:27 [8804] TRACE [ASTProvider] We don't know who this host is, gethostbyname=11004 error code 03/03/20 12:35:27 [8804] TRACE [ASTProvider] We don't know who this host is, gethostbyaddr error code=11004...panther_1Tue, 03 Mar 2020 11:55:46 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/3da8418682/?limit=25#d287https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/57871dd94c/?limit=25#903dHi, I install activa stp on my outlook 2016. When i send call via my outlook, My phone rings and when take my call asterisk hang up. Do you have an idea ?? TksAlexandreTue, 16 Apr 2019 19:12:47 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/57871dd94c/?limit=25#903dhttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/e57739d0/?limit=25#d046I autoanswer myself: I was missing the ActivaAPI.dll file. Now I can install it. Thanks again.Ricardo Sosa Sánchez-CortésFri, 13 Jul 2018 12:25:39 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/e57739d0/?limit=25#d046https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/e57739d0/?limit=25#e855Hello, I think I am having the same issue. If I download de installer is working fine, but if I build it, it fails. I would like to be able to compile it myself, since I am trying to learn about TSPs. Could you give me a hand here? Thank you.Ricardo Sosa Sánchez-CortésFri, 13 Jul 2018 10:16:31 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/e57739d0/?limit=25#e855https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/105e3841/?limit=25#b977Hi, I have 1 server and 2 IPBX, twice is connected on VPN to join the server Do you think its possible to connect 2 hosts to the activa tsp? (using multi host on register?) (I have the same sip account on each side dn0=sip/1, dn1=sip/2...) CordiallyvincentTue, 13 Mar 2018 08:58:00 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/105e3841/?limit=25#b977https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/f947790e/?limit=25#f928It work with 365 installed yesterdayzeler christianThu, 22 Feb 2018 09:02:39 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/f947790e/?limit=25#f928https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/news/2018/01/activa-for-asterisk-new-release-1300/Activa for Asterisk: New release 13.0.0activatspTue, 09 Jan 2018 17:29:40 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/news/2018/01/activa-for-asterisk-new-release-1300/https://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-13.0.0/Activa-bin-13.0.0.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 09 Jan 2018 17:27:02 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-13.0.0/Activa-bin-13.0.0.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-13.0.0/Activa-src-13.0.0.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 09 Jan 2018 17:27:02 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-13.0.0/Activa-src-13.0.0.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-13.0.0/Activa-TSP-setup-13.0.0-x64.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 09 Jan 2018 17:25:02 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-13.0.0/Activa-TSP-setup-13.0.0-x64.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-13.0.0/Activa-TSP-setup-13.0.0.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 09 Jan 2018 17:25:02 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-13.0.0/Activa-TSP-setup-13.0.0.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/ec7dbb1c/?limit=25#21acHi All, My Activa configuration is: "dn0"="1414" "host"="10.46.9.1" "port"=dword:000013ae 5038 "user"="1414" "dnPrefix"="AST" "OriginateVariable"="CHANNEL(language)=es" "UseMixMonitor"=dword:00000000 "calleridname0"="" "outgoingContext"="from-internal" "agentContext"="from-internal" "password"=XXXXXX "logToFile"=dword:00000001 "logLevel"=dword:0000001f "authType"=dword:00000001 I modified Asterisk manager.conf to enable 'user' and permit the IP subnet my PC uses. I dialing fails with the following...Uri Sh.Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:50:59 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/ec7dbb1c/?limit=25#21achttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/7321a840/?limit=25#48a9I support the question. What version of TAPI?AntthonyFri, 28 Jul 2017 05:16:50 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/7321a840/?limit=25#48a9https://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-bin-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskWed, 22 Mar 2017 17:02:02 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-bin-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskWed, 22 Mar 2017 17:00:02 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskWed, 22 Mar 2017 16:59:02 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-0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14-x64.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskFri, 03 Mar 2017 11:06:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14-x64.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskFri, 03 Mar 2017 11:06:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskWed, 01 Mar 2017 10:17:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-bin-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskWed, 01 Mar 2017 10:16:05 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.14/Activa-bin-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/news/2017/02/activa-for-asterisk-new-release-148/Activa for Asterisk: New release 1.8.14activatspTue, 28 Feb 2017 16:36:52 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/news/2017/02/activa-for-asterisk-new-release-148/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/news/2017/02/activa-for-asterisk-new-release-148/Activa for Asterisk: New release 1.8.14activatspTue, 28 Feb 2017 16:35:20 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/news/2017/02/activa-for-asterisk-new-release-148/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/news/2017/02/activa-for-asterisk-new-release-148/Activa for Asterisk: New release 1.4.8activatspTue, 28 Feb 2017 16:35:02 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/news/2017/02/activa-for-asterisk-new-release-148/https://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-bin-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 28 Feb 2017 16:27:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-bin-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 28 Feb 2017 16:27:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 28 Feb 2017 16:27:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-src-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14-x64.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 28 Feb 2017 16:26:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14-x64.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttps%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 28 Feb 2017 16:26:03 -0000https://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.14/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.14.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/f947790e/?limit=25#4e1cAnyone using Office 365 with Windows 10 and Activa?? I am using it with Office 2013...CharlieThu, 26 Jan 2017 02:05:16 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/f947790e/?limit=25#4e1chttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/7321a840/?limit=25#5f21Hi, Firstly, is Activa TAPI2 or TAPI3 compliant? Or, if it can do either, is there...Jason SWed, 07 Sep 2016 23:41:45 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/7321a840/?limit=25#5f21https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/bc554fc8/?limit=25#370aWe have install the activa driver on a TAPI server environment, by changing the registry...John LekkasTue, 26 Apr 2016 16:13:05 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576072/thread/bc554fc8/?limit=25#370ahttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/4b189426/?limit=25#4de3Hi, I'm trying to register a phone line using Activa TSP with my .net app. I know...Michal KovarWed, 23 Sep 2015 16:13:04 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/4b189426/?limit=25#4de3https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/cc2d12ce/?limit=25#b1c1Hi there, is there a possibility too redistribute Activa TSP with commercial software?...Michal KovarWed, 23 Sep 2015 15:37:23 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/cc2d12ce/?limit=25#b1c1https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/b3e023d9/?limit=25#ce68hello. i do have an asterisk 11 running in my system. A particular DID rings to 2...atuxFri, 05 Jun 2015 09:35:01 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/b3e023d9/?limit=25#ce68https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/ad67ad46/?limit=25#6a4eI cannot find it anywhere, but does it support TSPI_lineAnswer or TSPI_lineAccept?...Roman ŠtefkoThu, 28 May 2015 17:25:36 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/ad67ad46/?limit=25#6a4ehttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/595/HTML: donate web page to support ActivaTSP proj...activatspMon, 09 Mar 2015 09:06:52 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/595/https://sourceforge.nethttp%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.13/Activa-src-1.8.13.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskFri, 05 Dec 2014 09:28:03 -0000http://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.13/Activa-src-1.8.13.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttp%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.13/Activa-bin-1.8.13.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskFri, 05 Dec 2014 09:28:03 -0000http://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.13/Activa-bin-1.8.13.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttp%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.13/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.13-x64.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskFri, 05 Dec 2014 09:27:04 -0000http://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.13/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.13-x64.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttp%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.13/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.13.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskFri, 05 Dec 2014 09:27:04 -0000http://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.13/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.13.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/594/Release 1.8.13activatspFri, 05 Dec 2014 09:02:28 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/594/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/wiki/Home/?limit=25#c7dbif you want to compile the code , you also need nsis compiler for the creation of...nahumbaThu, 20 Nov 2014 09:36:50 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/wiki/Home/?limit=25#c7dbhttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/32/add blind transfer support to the code.nahumbaThu, 20 Nov 2014 09:31:45 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/32/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/3d1b852b/?limit=25#07d2I am running ActivaTSP on a 64b Windows 7 PC running Outlook 2010 I am connecting...RamblinFri, 07 Nov 2014 21:25:47 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/3d1b852b/?limit=25#07d2https://sourceforge.nethttp%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.12/Activa-src-1.8.12.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 07 Oct 2014 16:49:03 -0000http://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.12/Activa-src-1.8.12.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttp%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.12/Activa-bin-1.8.12.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 07 Oct 2014 16:49:03 -0000http://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/activa/Activa-1.8.12/Activa-bin-1.8.12.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttp%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.12/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.12.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 07 Oct 2014 16:47:03 -0000http://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.12/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.12.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.nethttp%3A//sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%2520Activa%2520TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.12/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.12-x64.zip/downloadActiva for AsteriskTue, 07 Oct 2014 16:47:03 -0000http://sourceforge.net/projects/activa/files/Asterisk%20Activa%20TSP/ActivaTSP-1.8.12/Activa-TSP-setup-1.8.12-x64.zip/downloadhttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/593/Release 1.8.12activatspTue, 07 Oct 2014 15:27:04 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/593/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/4cdacc7a/?limit=50#c45dWill Activa be working on any WebRTC integration in the near future ? https://wi...pcourtney1Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:53:15 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/4cdacc7a/?limit=50#c45dhttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/ea345233/?limit=25#76b4We are using ActivaTSP for multiple users. (By the way ActivaTSP is a great product,...Stefan BergerMon, 10 Mar 2014 15:49:53 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/ea345233/?limit=25#76b4https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/95daab52/?limit=25#f2fcI have installed activa TSP 1.8.11 on my Windows 7 PC. I also have installed Identapop...upishFri, 28 Feb 2014 21:41:04 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/95daab52/?limit=25#f2fchttps://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/d8b6981f/?limit=25#8992Hello, We've been testing ActivaTSP in a client-server environment, this is our setup:...HJFVHTue, 25 Feb 2014 20:35:26 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/d8b6981f/?limit=25#8992https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/592/Release 1.8.11activatspFri, 20 Dec 2013 11:25:28 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/592/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/591/New: ChannAgent compatibility.activatspFri, 20 Dec 2013 11:22:28 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/code/591/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/9e7395ca/cd85/Hi, If you pass LINECALLPARAMFLAGS_PREDICTIVEDIAL on your lineMakeCall TAPI function...activatspFri, 20 Dec 2013 11:00:12 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/9e7395ca/cd85/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/cd38c48f/dc6e/There is some functionality on Asterisk Managment Interface to send dtmf like *80,...activatspFri, 20 Dec 2013 10:45:48 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/cd38c48f/dc6e/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/_discuss/thread/e0e81497/dc30/Hi, Sorry, but in general ActivaTSP doesn't support ringroups or ringall queue s...activatspFri, 20 Dec 2013 10:39:50 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/_discuss/thread/e0e81497/dc30/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/_discuss/thread/32fca86a/bf07/Hi! Can you reproduce it with any Tapi application like dialer.exe?activatspFri, 20 Dec 2013 10:34:57 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/bugs/_discuss/thread/32fca86a/bf07/https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/9e7395ca/5c9a/I have installed Activa version 1.8.10.1059 Revision 590$ asterisk is 1.8.21 I can...FricciSat, 14 Dec 2013 00:44:45 -0000https://sourceforge.net/p/activa/discussion/576073/thread/9e7395ca/5c9a/